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What is the reverse mortgage for a trust?

A HECM can close when the home is titled in a living trust if the borrower is on title as 24 CFR 206.35 requires, the trustee has power to mortgage, and the lender’s trust review passes. The borrower is still the natural person who occupies (24 CFR 206.39) and who is 62 (24 CFR 206.33). Jay Zayer, a Certified Reverse Mortgage Professional licensed in California and Arizona, starts the trust package the same week as counseling so the 180-day certificate is not wasted on a vesting fail.

Handbook 4000.1 living-trust underwriting, not a dinner-table summary of “I have a trust,” decides the file.

What does the lender actually read in the trust, in order?

  1. The complete agreement and every amendment.
  2. Whether the trust is revocable, and who may revoke.
  3. Whether the borrower is a current beneficiary with the right to occupy for life.
  4. Whether the trustee may borrow against and encumber real property.
  5. Who must sign the note, the mortgage, and any certification: borrower as individual, trustee as trustee, non-borrowing owners under 24 CFR 206.35(c)–(d).

Here is what this looks like in practice: a 72-year-old in Walnut Creek, house already in a revocable living trust, adult child as successor trustee only. The settlor is trustee and beneficiary. That is the common pass. The same house in an irrevocable trust built to keep assets off a Medi-Cal worksheet can fail if the borrower cannot reach proceeds or cannot occupy as HUD requires. Do not originate to “test” that trust without counsel.

California probate can run many months. Arizona probate has its own pace. A successor trustee’s authority is why families use living trusts next to HECMs. The trust does not raise the principal limit. Factors still typically sit in the mid-30s to low-50s of claim amount at expected rates in the mid-to-upper 6% range. Size the loan from HUD tables, not from the trust recitals.

What if the trust is irrevocable, or a child is already a remainder beneficiary?

24 CFR 206.35(b) requires mortgagors to hold title to the entire property. Remainder holders of a life estate must execute the mortgage when a life estate is in the chain. A child who is already a vested remainder may have to sign even if they will not be a borrower. That signature is not Eligible Non-Borrowing Spouse protection. See non-borrowing spouse if marriage, not remainder, is the issue.

Testamentary trusts that do not exist until death cannot hold the house at origination. You cannot originate against a will’s future trust.

Deed-out and deed-back, when title requires it, must be done with the same people HUD needs on the mortgage. A quiet deed to “simplify” that leaves a remainder child off the new deed creates a 24 CFR 206.35 problem.

See effect on the estate for leftover equity. See heirs timeline for who calls the servicer.

Who should not park a HECM inside an unreviewed trust?

A household using an irrevocable trust as a benefits device without an elder-law opinion. A household whose trustee is a corporation that will not sign HUD’s certifications. A household that wants the child to “own it now” for Prop 19 reasons while still occupying as the HECM borrower. Jay will pause origination until a California or Arizona attorney says the trust can take this lien.

What can go wrong: only the schedule of assets is sent, not the amendments that stripped the trustee’s borrowing power. A POA tries to sign as trustee; a power of attorney does not replace trustee authority. Closing with title in the trust, then deeding out the next week without servicer consent, can breach the security instrument.

California certifications of trust under Probate Code section 18100.5 can speed title review, but HUD still wants enough of the instrument to see borrowing power and occupancy rights. Arizona trust certifications have their own form practice. Neither state’s short-form certificate is a reason to hide an amendment that stripped the trustee’s power to encumber.

Number the signing seats at the table: borrower as individual, trustee as trustee, any remainder holder 24 CFR 206.35 pulls in, and any Eligible Non-Borrowing Spouse certifications that 24 CFR 206.55 requires. Missing one seat is how a notary package comes back.

Who this does not help: a household using a “land trust” or bare nominee to hide the occupant. 24 CFR 206.39 still needs the borrower in the house. A nominee trust that the occupant does not control is a title fail, not a privacy feature. Jay will not originate around a hidden owner.

What can go wrong after death: the successor trustee cannot find the original trust, the certification is stale, and 24 CFR 206.125 notices go to the last known borrower address. Leave a servicer contact memo in the same binder as the trust. The trust is not self-executing with HUD.

A follow-up: after closing, can you move the house into a new trust? Transfers after closing need servicer and HUD-permitted conditions. A new irrevocable trust that cuts occupancy rights can make the loan due. Ask before you record.

After closing, keep the recorded mortgage, the trust, and the servicing letter in one binder. A successor trustee who inherits a drawer of unlabeled PDFs cannot meet 24 CFR 206.125’s short windows. Authority without documents is still delay. California and Arizona both see that binder fail more often than a HUD trust overlay fail.

A pour-over will does not fund the house into the trust by itself. If title is still in individual name, HUD reads that deed, not the will. Record the transfer, then originate. Counseling completed on the wrong vesting wastes the 180-day certificate. Start title and counseling the same week.

Community-property deeds in California can put a spouse on title even when the trust recitals name one settlor. 24 CFR 206.35 still needs every remaining owner to sign the mortgage. Bring the grant deed and the trust, not only the certification. Arizona separate-property deeds fail in the opposite way: a spouse omitted from title who still has homestead rights can surprise the closer. Title, not the trust nickname, sets the signing map.

Must I deed the house out of my revocable trust before a HECM can close?

Not always. Many files close with title in a revocable living trust if Handbook 4000.1 trust tests are met and trustees sign. Some title companies still require a brief deed-out and deed-back. Ask before counseling.

Can an irrevocable Medicaid-planning trust be the HECM borrower?

The borrower is the natural person, not the trust. Irrevocable trusts can hold title only if the person has the required beneficial rights and the trustee can encumber. Many cannot. That is an attorney-and-underwriter question.

Does a living trust stop 24 CFR 206.125 clocks when the borrower dies?

No. A successor trustee can often act faster than an executor waiting on probate letters. The due-and-payable loan and HUD's notice windows still exist.

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